Big Tone Kroos'ers

It's aaaaall just %@#$&!s. They don't know a £#%&!ing thing.

It may seem like stating the obvious, but if people are going to insist on believing every little thing on twitter and articles with no substance whatsoever. ....

Originally Posted by BarryX

He just wasn't told who they would be signing, and he'd even officially find out when the news broke at a press conference, like everyone else. My point being that this was a Director at the club, not some third party supplier, but a fully fledged Director. If someone in his position didn't know about an imminent deal, one that was getting signed off, how the £#%&! is Martin Keown or Jan Age @#%&!chops gonna know

The answer to the last question is simple - the club tells them, off the record, because for whatever reason, they want the news/agenda etc leaked (as we saw with Moyes firing). Clubs have used the media forever in this way.

A Director in charge of player housing doesn't need to know in advance, and telling him isn't going to do the club any good. Granted, HIS life might be easier if he could get to work on securing housing sooner, but I doubt they care about that.

Who wouldn't want to join the most exciting project in world football? Done deal.

anyone else think the £200mil might have been said to encourage renewals like the giggs appointment, seeing as we're not in the champions league?

Originally Posted by Grimson

The answer to the last question is simple - the club tells them, off the record, because for whatever reason, they want the news/agenda etc leaked (as we saw with Moyes firing). Clubs have used the media forever in this way.

A Director in charge of player housing doesn't need to know in advance, and telling him isn't going to do the club any good. Granted, HIS life might be easier if he could get to work on securing housing sooner, but I doubt they care about that.

I get what you're saying, but at the same time I'd hazard a guess that at least 50% of what the press report is happening, in terms of players we are supposed to be signing, is based on rumours and bullshit. As for Twitter, don't get me started.

https://twitter.com/BumperGraham/status/469581044015181825

https://twitter.com/BumperGraham/status/469581394134704128

https://twitter.com/BumperGraham/status/469581589484412928

Originally Posted by wonky no

anyone else think the £200mil might have been said to encourage renewals like the giggs appointment, seeing as we're not in the champions league?

£200m my £#%&!ing arse.

We've probably got a fair wedge to spend, probably something in the region of about £70-80m but it's utterly £#%&!ing pointless having it if we're going to waste our time chasing after players at clubs who are currently far higher in the pecking order than us.

Going after players at Bayern or Barcelona is just foolish. We should be smarter than that, we should be looking to get someone like Reus in from Dortmund or the Chilean lad from Juve who are probably both on peanuts compared to what they could earn at United, plus their clubs wouldn't turn down serious money.

Originally Posted by BarryX

I get what you're saying, but at the same time I'd hazard a guess that at least 50% of what the press report is happening, in terms of players we are supposed to be signing, is based on rumours and bullshit. As for Twitter, don't get me started.

Oh for sure. The vast majority is nonsense.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

£200m my £#%&!ing arse.

We've probably got a fair wedge to spend, probably something in the region of about £70-80m but it's utterly £#%&!ing pointless having it if we're going to waste our time chasing after players at clubs who are currently far higher in the pecking order than us.

Going after players at Bayern or Barcelona is just foolish. We should be smarter than that, we should be looking to get someone like Reus in from Dortmund or the Chilean lad from Juve who are probably both on peanuts compared to what they could earn at United, plus their clubs wouldn't turn down serious money.

This. The club wants to flex it's muscles on the grand stage but as per usual is going about it in the wrong way.

Originally Posted by Rhodzy

https://twitter.com/BumperGraham/sta...81044015181825

https://twitter.com/BumperGraham/sta...81394134704128

https://twitter.com/BumperGraham/sta...81589484412928

#@#%&!

Originally Posted by puressence

Oh dear

+1

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Going after players at Bayern or Barcelona is just foolish. We should be smarter than that, we should be looking to get someone like Reus in from Dortmund or the Chilean lad from Juve who are probably both on peanuts compared to what they could earn at United, plus their clubs wouldn't turn down serious money.

It does seem strange. It's like the club have suddenly decided that nothing but world stars from the biggest clubs will do, as if that's all United fans have ever been used to. Just get good players ffs, ones that will improve us. Vidic and Evra are two of the biggest success stories of the last couple of decades - who had ever heard of them when they signed?

Originally Posted by Sparky***

£200m my £#%&!ing arse.

We've probably got a fair wedge to spend, probably something in the region of about £70-80m but it's utterly £#%&!ing pointless having it if we're going to waste our time chasing after players at clubs who are currently far higher in the pecking order than us.

Going after players at Bayern or Barcelona is just foolish. We should be smarter than that, we should be looking to get someone like Reus in from Dortmund or the Chilean lad from Juve who are probably both on peanuts compared to what they could earn at United, plus their clubs wouldn't turn down serious money.

yup.
non of it makes any sense. the hype around how much coin we have to spend, the clubs we are 'in talks' with, the specific names we're still linked with despite having 3 managers ( fergus was looking at kroos too, wasnt he?). it all smacks of desperation, of being seen to be doing the right thing. i'm not convinced.

Originally Posted by Grimson

It does seem strange. It's like the club have suddenly decided that nothing but world stars from the biggest clubs will do, as if that's all United fans have ever been used to. Just get good players ffs, ones that will improve us. Vidic and Evra are two of the biggest success stories of the last couple of decades - who had ever heard of them when they signed?

The funny thing is they honestly couldn't have picked a worse time to adopt such a policy! When, over the course of the last 20 years, has the club ever looked as un-appealing as it does right now?

Originally Posted by Grimson

It does seem strange. It's like the club have suddenly decided that nothing but world stars from the biggest clubs will do, as if that's all United fans have ever been used to. Just get good players ffs, ones that will improve us. Vidic and Evra are two of the biggest success stories of the last couple of decades - who had ever heard of them when they signed?

Take your point about Vidic but Evra was an established player who'd fallen out with his club (a bit like Barthez). I suppose he wasn't that well known internationally because he was behind Lizarazu for France, but he had played in the CL final 6 months previously.

Originally Posted by Rhodzy

https://twitter.com/BumperGraham/sta...81044015181825

https://twitter.com/BumperGraham/sta...81394134704128

https://twitter.com/BumperGraham/sta...81589484412928

So we're signing Schweinsteiger instead then, excellent.

Originally Posted by doudou

Take your point about Vidic but Evra was an established player who'd fallen out with his club (a bit like Barthez). I suppose he wasn't that well known internationally because he was behind Lizarazu for France, but he had played in the CL final 6 months previously.

Along with Akis Zikos and Jerome Rothem.

My point being he wasn't a high-profile player, he kind of signing made to satisfy fans' demand for big names, which is the strategy some of these approaches seem designed to do.

Originally Posted by Grimson

Jerome Rothem.

Rothen was quite a big star in France at that time, believe it or not..

Originally Posted by doudou

Rothen was quite a big star in France at that time, believe it or not..

You're not really hearing me.

Manchester United aren't in France.