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Unread 30-11-2023, 12:53 AM
croady26
 
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Things go just a bit different and we have already qualified from this group FFS.
Yeah like actually controlling games when leading instead of letting it get end to end
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 02:02 AM
Sparky***
 
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As you say, if he can't do the basic stuff properly, then he shouldn't be a Utd goalkeeper. Regardless of the defensive trials & tribulations in front of him. Save the £#%&!ing ball when it's hit at you. It IS that simple.

If Fergie was still our manager, Onana would be binned the second the transfer window opened.
Guardiola got bravo in, didn’t cut it - got rid.

Klopp got that Karius in, wasn’t good enough - got rid

Arsenal spent £30m on Ramsdale 2 years ago - bought Raya to replace him
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 03:43 AM
shenwen
 
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Hopefully that means we finish bottom. Last thing we need is a result against Bayern and a Europa run.

Actually thought we played better there than we have recently. Right side much better. Once again though our weakness after scoring and our habit of hiring keepers with hands made of jelly has pretty much £#%&!ed us in the CL this season.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 06:49 AM
Bunker Buster
 
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Last game day....

We beat a weakened Bayern.

Other games draw..

Believe
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 07:23 AM
shenwen
 
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Last game day....

We beat a weakened Bayern.

Other games draw..

Believe
Hope not. You just know we'll end up wasting time in the Europa again.

Need to now spend the rest of the season building for the season after, bedding in the likes of Mainoo and the Turkish keeper. Maybe a run in the FA cup. Europe is done though.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 07:25 AM
Bunker Buster
 
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Hope not. You just know we'll end up wasting time in the Europa again.

Need to now spend the rest of the season building for the season after, bedding in the likes of Mainoo and the Turkish keeper. Maybe a run in the FA cup. Europe is done though.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 07:31 AM
shenwen
 
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Think we should promote one of the youth keepers instead? Could work.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 07:34 AM
magic_cantona
 
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Or pick a bag of cement v Bayern and whip Onana naked through the streets of Alderly Edge
Too kind.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 07:46 AM
Bunker Buster
 
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Think we should promote one of the youth keepers instead? Could work.
No, think we should stick with onana, the player everyone was buzzing off after his penalty save a few weeks back, the premier leagues inform keeper...



13 games
78.8% save rate
51 saves
5 clean sheets
+3.4 post-shot expected goals
2.67 goals prevented

If anything he's underated....

A goalkeeper mistake (2nd freekick, first wasn't his doing) always gets the spotlight....
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 07:52 AM
believe
 
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Absolutely hates stat £#%&!ers does bunks.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 07:57 AM
Dasilvatwins
 
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No, think we should stick with onana, the player everyone was buzzing off after his penalty save a few weeks back, the premier leagues inform keeper...



13 games
78.8% save rate
51 saves
5 clean sheets
+3.4 post-shot expected goals
2.67 goals prevented

If anything he's underated....

A goalkeeper mistake (2nd freekick, first wasn't his doing) always gets the spotlight....
You make it out like it’s an isolated incident. He messed up against Bayern, he did something similar against Forrest. Against icardi in the first game I think he was chipped early as he went to ground quickly . Did something similar in a game in the prem too.

You want to pull up stats he’s also the keeper to have made most mistakes that led to goals in the champions league since 2018-2019.

It’s not just his mistakes that have led to goals. His distribution has been underwhelming too. Expected him to have a good passing range regularly finding the full backs with accuracy, or even our wingers. Yesterday he gave the ball away a couple times, the second time we got lucky his ricochet came right back at it.

I hope he turns it around, he needs the season atleast and chopping and changing won’t help. I want him to do well, a lot of people may have written him off before he even played for the club, but let’s not pretend he’s been actually a good GK for us this season. Much like the majority of the first team, he needs to vastly improve if we want to see us challenging for league titles and cups again.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 09:00 AM
Stickman
 
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Feels like mistakes like last night will never be far away.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 09:06 AM
shenwen
 
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Originally Posted by Bunker Buster
No, think we should stick with onana, the player everyone was buzzing off after his penalty save a few weeks back, the premier leagues inform keeper...



13 games
78.8% save rate
51 saves
5 clean sheets
+3.4 post-shot expected goals
2.67 goals prevented

If anything he's underated....

A goalkeeper mistake (2nd freekick, first wasn't his doing) always gets the spotlight....
I know, I'm winding you up.

But all the stats in the world can't deny the trained eye Thought you more than anyone would agree with this. I'm going to assume you never posted this with a straight face

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+3.4 post-shot expected goals
And didn't De Gea get the most clean sheets last year. Ultimately pointless metric.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 10:49 AM
Sheik JaBooty
 
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I’ve got a stat for ya; 38 games to get us into the Champions League, 3 games for this clown to throw us out of it.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 10:51 AM
silv
 
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Absolutely hates stat £#%&!ers does bunks.
I was arguing with a mate last night who was throwing xg in my face when i said youd rather have Garnacho taking Pellistris chance....
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 11:30 AM
armchair
 
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Manchester United must beat Bayern Munich for Old Trafford on 12 December and hope say Copenhagen and Galatasaray match end for draw, to qualify for di last 16.

If United beat Bayern and winner dey for oda match for Group A, den Erik ten Hag side go finish for third place and drop to Europa League.

Bayern Munich reach di Champions League knockout stage as group winners wit two matches to spare afta dem beat Galatasaray.

Copenhagen go qualify if dem win Galatasaray or if dem draw and United fail to beat Bayern Munich.

Galatasaray must beat Copenhagen to qualify because of dia inferior goal difference and di fact say dem draw 2-2 for dia first meeting.
 
Unread 30-11-2023, 11:35 AM
Sapien
 
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Unread 30-11-2023, 12:36 PM
Patty_b
 
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Unread 30-11-2023, 05:12 PM
Sparky***
 
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Turns out their first goal should not have stood. Just about sums up our entire champions league campaign tbh

 
Unread 30-11-2023, 05:15 PM
jem
 
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that's pretty desperate. boey should have been sent off, though.
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