Our transfer business

Originally Posted by TheFatGoth

Stopped reading at “Miguel Delaney says”

Originally Posted by TheFatGoth

Every word of that is like a dagger to the heart

Woodward is a dick though.

Club should be doing everything and breaking every bank for Mbappe tbf.

Originally Posted by dunk

Every word of that is like a dagger to the heart

Woodward is a dick though.

Club should be doing everything and breaking every bank for Mbappe tbf.

would never, ever happen. absolute nonsense article.


Kroos. Thiago. Bale. Ronaldo (x25).

All woowars wet dreams amongst many others, all absolute fantasy land.


A few folk at United need to wake the £#%&! up with regards to our current standing. We stopped being the world's biggest club the minute ferguson decided Moyes was cut from the same cloth.


Farce of a joke of a farce.

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

Stopped reading at “Miguel Delaney says”

Tbf

But Mourinho would ‘turn him down’ as he ‘has a clear vision’ of what he wants his team to look and play like. He wants ‘hard-working wingers’, not ‘more flamboyant wide attackers’.

Gave it credit.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Gave it credit.

When have united’s best teams not had hard working wingers?

Since when did wanting players to work hard become a bad thing? Which successful manager doesn’t care about such things? Ferguson? Klopp? Guardiola? Is it only bad when it’s mourinho?

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

When have united’s best teams not had hard working wingers?

Since when did wanting players to work hard become a bad thing?

New to Ronaldo? Mourinho would have been appalled at his show-pony full-back neglecting antics circa 2004.

Anyway, we all know we're signing Willian for £60m. Just get it done.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

New to Ronaldo? Mourinho would have been appalled at his show-pony full-back neglecting antics circa 2004.

Anyway, we all know we're signing Willian for £60m. Just get it done.

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

Stopped reading at “Miguel Delaney says”

Stopped reading at ed Woodward

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Of course he £#%&!ing did, mainly because he knows like anyone with half a brain does, that we have £#%&! all chance of signing any of them.

It would have been yet another one of Woodward's now infamous wastes of time.

You'd have though we learned from Moyes and Woodward wasting the whole summer chasing players that had no intention of coming here and just used us a leverage in contract negotiations.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

New to Ronaldo? Mourinho would have been appalled at his show-pony full-back neglecting antics circa 2004.

Anyway, we all know we're signing Willian for £60m. Just get it done.

You're using the best player in the world as an example of having a winger who doesn't track back. Even Mourinho would allow that because of what he offers going forward. But no point making those compromises for a Matty Etherington or Shaqiri.

Hard working wingers

That's his default. That's his avatar.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Of course he £#%&!ing did, mainly because he knows like anyone with half a brain does, that we have £#%&! all chance of signing any of them.

It would have been yet another one of Woodward's now infamous wastes of time.

Sparkles

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

New to Ronaldo? Mourinho would have been appalled at his show-pony full-back neglecting antics circa 2004.

Ronaldo wasn’t a hard worker. Learn something every day.

Originally Posted by Switching Off

You're using the best player in the world as an example of having a winger who doesn't track back. Even Mourinho would allow that because of what he offers going forward. But no point making those compromises for a Matty Etherington or Shaqiri.

Nah pal. He’d have dropped and sold him if he ever managed him.

Originally Posted by Clownbones

Hard working wingers

That's his default. That's his avatar.

Hard working players. Dirty word.

Nothing wrong with expecting players to work hard. Martial for all his talent is too static and passive when not on the ball. if you are not working back then you best be highly active when off the ball. Martial, even at his his best under LVG, was very much wait for the ball to feet and then play. It is something, no matter his future, he will have to change to reach his potential, makes him too predictable, which is why you often see him start brightly and then fade as teams adapt and disrupt the supply.

The issue with Mourinho is balance, Hazard and he struggled to find it, thus Hazard chafing and pretty much downing tools in that final Chelsea season.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

The issue with Mourinho is balance

that is for sure.

pick a £#%&!ing midfield instead of expecting your wingbacks to be supermen and your strikers to defend the edge of the box.

It's not as basic as saying 'he needs to work harder'.

Man City and Liverpool's front players work very hard. The idea of working hard is not the problem - it's what kind of work they are tasked with.

Those sides and others across Europe work hard to win the ball back high up the field. They play a high defence which is risky but the purpose is to make it hard for opposition to settle and they can swarm over the opposition. Attacking players will more likely enjoy that since that work leads to mistakes from the opponents in their territory, which leads to space, chances, goals. The more successful it goes the more buzz it creates for fans. That's hard work but worthwhile.

The difference here is we play a deep line. We play a pedestrian style of football. We don't work hard in winning the ball back - we'll let the opposition have the ball and settle. It also is a successful way of winning but it doesn't resonate well with the fans, or attacking players long term in a top team. At a point these players will look at each other and think 'I'm a Ferrari being used like a Vauxhall' lile Eden Hazard is. Reductionist football - tasking attackers to track back and be another body in defensive areas, auxillary full backs - kills your motivation as a young attacker.

Originally Posted by Buck

It's not as basic as saying 'he needs to work harder'.

Man City and Liverpool's front players work very hard. The idea of working hard is not the problem - it's what kind of work they are tasked with.

Those sides and others across Europe work hard to win the ball back high up the field. They play a high defence which is risky but the purpose is to make it hard for opposition to settle and they can swarm over the opposition. Attacking players will more likely enjoy that since that work leads to mistakes from the opponents in their territory, which leads to space, chances, goals. The more successful it goes the more buzz it creates for fans. That's hard work but worthwhile.

The difference here is we play a deep line. We play a pedestrian style of football. We don't work hard in winning the ball back - we'll let the opposition have the ball and settle. It also is a successful way of winning but it doesn't resonate well with the fans, or attacking players long term in a top team. At a point these players will look at each other and think 'I'm a Ferrari being used like a Vauxhall' lile Eden Hazard is. Reductionist football - tasking attackers to track back and be another body in defensive areas, auxillary full backs - kills your motivation as a young attacker.

Word.

Originally Posted by Buck

Reductionist football - tasking attackers to track back and be another body in defensive areas, auxillary full backs - kills your motivation as a young attacker.

What did Fergie ever know.

Originally Posted by Buck

It's not as basic as saying 'he needs to work harder'.

Man City and Liverpool's front players work very hard. The idea of working hard is not the problem - it's what kind of work they are tasked with.

Those sides and others across Europe work hard to win the ball back high up the field. They play a high defence which is risky but the purpose is to make it hard for opposition to settle and they can swarm over the opposition. Attacking players will more likely enjoy that since that work leads to mistakes from the opponents in their territory, which leads to space, chances, goals. The more successful it goes the more buzz it creates for fans. That's hard work but worthwhile.

The difference here is we play a deep line. We play a pedestrian style of football. We don't work hard in winning the ball back - we'll let the opposition have the ball and settle. It also is a successful way of winning but it doesn't resonate well with the fans, or attacking players long term in a top team. At a point these players will look at each other and think 'I'm a Ferrari being used like a Vauxhall' lile Eden Hazard is. Reductionist football - tasking attackers to track back and be another body in defensive areas, auxillary full backs - kills your motivation as a young attacker.

Honestly don’t think I can take another season of young and Valencia at fullbacks ffs Smalling, Rojo, Jones, Darmian, Shaw, Fellaini biggest club in the world...

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Yeah, I think we can forget about winning anything substantial.

Finished 20 points behind City and our response is to sign some Portuguese under 21 defender that nobody's heard of, a 3rd choice keeper from Stoke and Fred from Shakhtar Chernobyl.

What an utterly depressing lack of ambition from the entire club.