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Old 07-03-2018, 06:18 AM
S/Side.Red
 
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You don't think Shaw has had a recurring fitness/weight issue since he has been at United? You don't think that this *might* be contributing to his lack of appearances this season, even when he is free of injury?

The comparison with Rooney is interesting. Scholes also pointed out the similarities: "With his body shape, he looks like a player who needs to be playing every week. We had Wayne Rooney, who was a player if he missed a couple of games you knew, he wasn’t looking after himself."

None of us know if this is the case with Shaw or not, but at the same time we can't dismiss it.
I think he might be one of those players who just has to work that bit harder because he's naturally bulky. And when he's not playing regularly, as has so often been the case over the last couple of years, it becomes even more difficult.

But that's different from him being a chancer. Again, I don't think he gets close to the recent increased involvement under Mourinho if he's A) genuinely out of condition; B) taking liberties with the advice given to him by the medical staff. I suspect he's training well.

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You cannot help being such a weseal.. snide comment after snide comment.
What was snide about that? Said as much as we missed Sane, we were all happy with Pog and Mkhi at the time.

Anyway, you're a low-key bad rep giver iirc. Far more snide and much, much more weasel-ish imo.
 
Old 07-03-2018, 06:46 AM
RemisMoses
 
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Look for the thread on Sane on here

Edit: http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...ght=leroy+sane


First post. Hes like a young Martial Theres only a month between them.
 
Old 07-03-2018, 09:38 AM
shenwen
 
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I think he might be one of those players who just has to work that bit harder because he's naturally bulky. And when he's not playing regularly, as has so often been the case over the last couple of years, it becomes even more difficult.

But that's different from him being a chancer. Again, I don't think he gets close to the recent increased involvement under Mourinho if he's A) genuinely out of condition; B) taking liberties with the advice given to him by the medical staff. I suspect he's training well.
I don't doubt that he is trying. I wasn't saying he was taking the piss himself. More that the situation itself is a piss take and that a player of his quality is still a bench player. I think Mourinho knows Shaw is a better option that Young, but can't trust him still, both because of his fitness and his tactical nouse.

But again, all conjecture. Who really knows?
 
Old 07-03-2018, 10:51 AM
Whip Hubley
 
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Match fitness is one thing, but I really don't see why a lack of matches would see you put excess body fat on. At the end of the day he's paid a fortune to stay in shape and make himself available; surely the buck has to stop with him on that.

If he's 'mentally fragile' then he needs the appropriate help. But at some point he also needs to take some responsibility. If he stays fit and trains hard and still isn't getting games then he's done all he can and is obviously free to move on, but I hardly think there will be a raft of suitors.
 
Old 07-03-2018, 11:46 AM
believe
 
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Surely everything he eats, how he trains etc is monitored on a daily basis?
 
Old 07-03-2018, 11:48 AM
AK14
 
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Surely everything he eats, how he trains etc is monitored on a daily basis?
Probably has a secret stash of mars bars and fizzy pop.
 
Old 07-03-2018, 11:51 AM
forwardirektion
 
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3 separate mangers have commented on his weight and conditioning. It's clearly an issue.
 
Old 07-03-2018, 11:52 AM
believe
 
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Probably has a secret stash of mars bars and fizzy pop.
There’s no probably about it. Although wasn’t Pally famous for having stashes of chocolate and crisps in hotel rooms?
 
Old 07-03-2018, 11:55 AM
Whip Hubley
 
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Surely everything he eats, how he trains etc is monitored on a daily basis?
They can only monitor to a certain extent, the rest is 'advisory'.

Ultimately he's the one in charge of his own intake. It's not the clubs fault if he's at five guys after training every day.
 
Old 07-03-2018, 12:02 PM
AK14
 
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There’s no probably about it. Although wasn’t Pally famous for having stashes of chocolate and crisps in hotel rooms?
Chocolate bars are bigger these days?

Shaw's probably stashing full on galaxy slabs and KFC tbf.
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