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Old 22-05-2016, 10:36 PM
General Woundwort
 
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I think getting sacked at Madrid or by ambramovich should come with an asterix.




As for Mourinho, he'll need a personality transplant if he's to last more than 2 years at OT. Still preferable to another year of LVG and a Giggs succession though.

His priorities on arrival need to be photo-call with Alan Keegan, slap mousemat on desk, sell Fellaini. Anything good that follows is a bonus.
 
Old 22-05-2016, 10:44 PM
S/Side.Red
 
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You'd have to think at least some of those issues stemmed from dropping the likes of Casillas and Terry, and the subsequent fallout in the respective dressing rooms, no? No issues the seasons prior to doing that at each club.

edit - saw your addendum re: Loftus-Cheek and yeah, he may have played that poorly. Also the doctor thing.
Heard the bloke who did the Times piece on the radio and he said the impact of the Doctor thing was massively overblown. But the reason for that is it was just a slice of the way he was going off on people all the time. The hope from our end would be he will just be a happier - and therefore more careful - manager here.
 
Old 22-05-2016, 10:48 PM
utd99
 
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I think getting sacked at Madrid or by ambramovich should come with an asterix.

Ancelotti sacked by Chelsea and Madrid too. Has his reputation been hit by that?

Last season the only reasonable one where he deserved it based solely on football.

Feel free to tell me some other bad years if you like.


Certainly don't roll off the tongue and nothing to suggest he's finished.
I think Mourinho will be here at least five years.
 
Old 22-05-2016, 11:14 PM
red in cumbria
 
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If he'd had one genuinely bad season, he wouldn't have been sacked 3 times.

Let's bear in mind that at Madrid and Chelsea a terrible season can be disguised by having the likes of Drogba or Ronaldo or even Hazard doing enough to cover the cracks..
This would be true if the relevant clubs were "normal". But we are talking about Real Madrid - who sack people just after they have won the CL - and the personal fiefdom that is Chelski.
 
Old 22-05-2016, 11:27 PM
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Rooneys club managers.

Moyes
Fergie
Moyes
Van Gaal
Mourinho

Moyes twice
 
Old 22-05-2016, 11:49 PM
Jammy Dodger
 
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Yep, this. Wenger is virtually the last exception to that, when he finally goes it really will be the end of an era.
Until United get another successful manager.

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Supposedly the club led by the old-guard wanted to avoid turning to him because of the bullshit he brings but mainly as it will sacrifice style for substance, where we are used to both co-existing but at the minimum expect to be entertained on the pitch even if we're not challenging.
This old guard the same one that appointed Moyes, renowned for his winning with style approach to the game, yes?

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Concern for me is purely the nature of the departures. Mourinho of Porto, Chelsea and Inter was a guy the players would run through fire for. His last two jobs have ended with plenty of dissent among players, and the bigger names at that.

Is it really possible to lose that magic of communication? You wouldn't think so, but it's a worry.
Both occurred after he was rejected from a job he'd coveted for ages, for Moyes of all f**kng people. Not ancelotti, klopp or guardiola, but David f**king Moyes.

The players at Madrid have hounded out just about every manager they've ever had. The fact he lasted 3 years there is in his favour. Also lasted longer than anyone at Chelsea under abramovic. Even during his second 'disastrous' spell. Also, at Chelsea, the players didn't want him gone the first time, and the fans didn't want him gone either time. That's some failure. Mourinho is very adaptable to any club and it's culture.

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Old 23-05-2016, 02:27 AM
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Until United get another successful manager.



This old guard the same one that appointed Moyes, renowned for his winning with style approach to the game, yes?



Both occurred after he was rejected from a job he'd coveted for ages, for Moyes of all fuckng people. Not ancelotti, klopp or guardiola, but David fucking Moyes.

The players at Madrid have hounded out just about every manager they've ever had. The fact he lasted 3 years there is in his favour. Also lasted longer than anyone at Chelsea under abramovic. Even during his second 'disastrous' spell. Also, at Chelsea, the players didn't want him gone the first time, and the fans didn't want him gone either time. That's some failure. Mourinho is very adaptable to any club and it's culture.
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