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Old 26-11-2011, 12:10 AM
denis lawless
 
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That's a piss-poor excuse. You're not selfish maybe, but definitely lazy and on the path of least resistance. That's why the world is f***ed - most people are the same.

It's nice to look after your own but if you can't or won't extend it to the greater good, then you're selfish.
not really Grimmers.....its a question of where do you draw the line ?

family is a fairly easy number to quantify...friends, well, it can be a broad church.....close friends yes, neighbours .....yes.........local community yes maybe........but once you go beyond that, you need to be really committed to the cause, maybe as a charity worker or some sort of social worker but that then becomes a career and if youre getting paid for it, does it count ?

so again, the question is where do you draw the line beyond which you are selfish and not just a normal person living life and caring about the people around you.......with the best will in the world, i cant save everybody.

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youve thought long and hard about this havent you
 
Old 26-11-2011, 12:13 AM
irk
 
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boo
send me a few locks in the post. it's for the greater good. I'll put them in a glass box and the masses can carry them at the front of their march to emancipation. their awesome beauty, and power, will transfix the good and smite the unworthy like on raiders of the lost ark or something.
 
Old 26-11-2011, 12:20 AM
Grimson
 
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not really Grimmers.....its a question of where do you draw the line ?

family is a fairly easy number to quantify...friends, well, it can be a broad church.....close friends yes, neighbours .....yes.........local community yes maybe........but once you go beyond that, you need to be really committed to the cause, maybe as a charity worker or some sort of social worker but that then becomes a career and if youre getting paid for it, does it count ?

so again, the question is where do you draw the line beyond which you are selfish and not just a normal person living life and caring about the people around you.......with the best will in the world, i cant save everybody.
Well yes....but I'm only going on what you said, which is that you didn't care beyond your family. Perhaps you were being a bit flippant. I agree nobody should be expected to save the world, but helping in the community should be the bare minimum for anyone who benefits from living in a community.
 
Old 26-11-2011, 12:22 AM
armchair
 
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It's not the greater good that's seen record profits recently and it's certainly not the greater good that most elected politicians are interested in.
 
Old 26-11-2011, 12:27 AM
irk
 
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It's not the greater good that's seen record profits recently and it's certainly not the greater good that most elected politicians are interested in.
we can't have it both ways. we can't expect a society where competition is king to engender any respect in it's citizens for the inevitable losers. they're just, well, losers.
 
Old 26-11-2011, 12:30 AM
denis lawless
 
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Well yes....but I'm only going on what you said, which is that you didn't care beyond your family. Perhaps you were being a bit flippant. I agree nobody should be expected to save the world, but helping in the community should be the bare minimum for anyone who benefits from living in a community.
i did say friends too....pretty sure i did........and that can encompass a wide range of people

sounds like we agree on at least the bare minimum tbh
 
Old 26-11-2011, 12:31 AM
armchair
 
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we can't have it both ways. we can't expect a society where competition is king to engender any respect in it's citizens for the inevitable losers. they're just, well, losers.
"competition"? That big fix? pfft.

We didn't go into iraq for "competition."
 
Old 26-11-2011, 12:34 AM
irk
 
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"competition"? That big fix? pfft.

We didn't go into iraq for "competition."
indeed. competition is for the herd
 
Old 26-11-2011, 12:37 AM
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competition is a premium rate number
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